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  • waternut
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    Thanks Ron, excellent site. We winterize and have not made any below freezing trips yet. Looks like my cheap heat will be the small space heaters till we go full time. I do have a neat plug in that only energizes when it gets below 45 degrees. Will handle 15 amps. I use one in the basement and one in the bath area when there is a chance of a freeze and am not winterized. Just plug it in and plug the space heater into it. Most space heaters will only go down to around 60 degrees. All we need is to keep it above freezing when plugged in at the house.

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    Originally posted by waternut View Post
    Hate to admit it but have no idea what a "cheap heat system" is does it replace the LP furnace in some way? Thanks in advance
    Waternut -

    Yes, kinda. It is a "distribution plenum" replacement to the propane furnace. It has heating strips in it and a control unit that taps into the furnace controls to override the propane circuits. So, when chosen to override, the furnace fan comes on, but the propane circuit is not activated (ie, fan only). Power is applied across the heating strips, and thus warmed air is distributed to the "furnace vents" and the underbelly heating duct. Depending upon your price per KWH, or cost per camping space with electrical, versus propane price per BTU, it can be cheaper than propane. Cheap Heat has a good website with great diagrams, just Google it.

    Ron

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  • waternut
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    Hate to admit it but have no idea what a "cheap heat system" is does it replace the LP furnace in some way? Thanks in advance

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  • millerjnt
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    Originally posted by moeandflo View Post
    Terry. I am going to have to add that to my list of "signs you won't see in Florida." Maybe we can meet one day in Colorado.

    Stay warm.
    I'm not really trying to hijack this thread, but your last comment DEMANDS a reply.

    Would you find these signs better?

    Terry
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  • jbbdc
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    Originally posted by Paw John View Post
    Has anybody thought of trying the Cheap Heat system. I installed this system in my 36TK3 2004 Mobile Suite and am very satisfide with it's operation. I added an extra 4'' duct to the underbelly and this is working very good. I'm very impressed with this system and hope the factory starts to install it during the build.
    We have a DRV on order and are having the Cheap Heat system installed. Not a factory option but is a dealer-installed option.

    In our previous DRV we only used ceramic heaters...one in the living room, one in the bedroom. They did an adequate job. The Cheap Heat system should do a better job while not using that expensive propane.

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  • moeandflo
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    Terry. I am going to have to add that to my list of "signs you won't see in Florida." Maybe we can meet one day in Colorado.

    Stay warm.

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  • millerjnt
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    Originally posted by moeandflo View Post
    Hi Terry. Did I read you were moving to Denver? Curious as that will be one our stops to visit our niece. Hoping for next summer.

    Regards
    Michael and Katherine,

    Our plans are to retire from our jobs the first of July and move to Colorado. We still want to work, but we want to get away from the nonsense that is "working for the state" and do something else. I've got dreams of being a big-box store "cart dude." That would let me work outside again and maybe even lose some weight. At present, no jobs are known of in Colorado, so it may be July before we do all this. Our preference would be to be in the Colorado Springs area because one of Jo's sisters lives in CS and the other lives in Canon City (roughly 50 miles away) and a niece and nephew that live in the Cripple Creek area.

    We spent some time researching and looking at both mobile home parks and RV parks in the two areas, and our preference would be to stay full-time at Mountaindale Cabins and RV Resort, which is southwest of CS. Since we live within 200 yards of a major interstate highway (I-44), I'm anxious to trade the "screams of sirens of emergency vehicles" for the screams of mountain lions.

    Terry
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  • Deb & Fred
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    Thanks Wingnut60. I agree that the coffee is the most critical thing. I can always put on a jacket while I make coffee. I did turn off the livingroom heater this morning while I made coffee. The propane furnace kept everything nice and toasty and no tripped breakers. Before I left for work, I turned the livingroom heater back on and everything worked fine. The second most critical thing is the remote start on my truck. I had about 1" of snow on it this morning and after about 10 minutes it was all warmed up and defrosted. The remote turns on the heated seats and steering wheel also. I love my new F-350.
    I checked my island and it's on the same circuit as the bedroom outlets so........ that won't work. I do plan on mapping out my electrical circuits and labeling everything. Then I'll see if I need to change the wiring, but for now I guess I've got a work-a-round. Thanks to all, Fred

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  • moeandflo
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    Originally posted by millerjnt View Post
    Deb and Fred,

    It may be of little help to you because our Mobile Suites is a 2010, and I'm sure that they have since rewired things as to what is on which breaker. Our bedroom Lasko heater is plugged into the outlet to the right of the window over the dresser. The larger one is plugged into the outlet on the "outside" of our peninsula kitchen counter. In other words, between the counter and the dinette. In the two winters we've done here in Oklahoma, we've never had a breaker go because of the heaters.

    Terry
    Hi Terry. Did I read you were moving to Denver? Curious as that will be one our stops to visit our niece. Hoping for next summer.

    Regards

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  • Wingnut60
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    Not much to help you, but you need to find out which outlets are on which breakers. Turn off a breaker and see what works and record it...then repeat with rest of breakers. If one breaker controls a lot lest than the others, that would be one for the heater. Or, turn off the heat while you make coffee?? Sounds critical to me--couldn't do without morning coffee. To some extent, I have the same problem with my 2005 when on 30 amp or (gasp) 15 amp service. The island outlets seem to be the best to use for a heater. But I do pretty good if I remember to turn off the heater while making the coffee--then all is ok for keeping the coffee warm AND the heater.
    There is also a way to rewire the distribution box if you know what you are doing to better balance the loads.
    Joe

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  • millerjnt
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    Deb and Fred,

    It may be of little help to you because our Mobile Suites is a 2010, and I'm sure that they have since rewired things as to what is on which breaker. Our bedroom Lasko heater is plugged into the outlet to the right of the window over the dresser. The larger one is plugged into the outlet on the "outside" of our peninsula kitchen counter. In other words, between the counter and the dinette. In the two winters we've done here in Oklahoma, we've never had a breaker go because of the heaters.

    Terry

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  • Deb & Fred
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    OK, I'm stuck (or frozen) up here in MN tying to finish my last consulting job. It's the last time I'm doing this. I think I've said that before.

    I have researched this forum and others about winter camping and I've done everything I can, including gitting my 2 space heaters; one in the bedroom and one in the living room. I was just using the one in the living room, until last night when it went down to 21 degrees. I got up and turned on the one in the bedroom and it tripped the 15 amp breaker. It appears that almost all the outlets on my vintage 2004 33 foot MS are on the same 15 amp service. Not wanting to desturb the dresser arangement in the bedroom, I left that heater plugged into the 15 amp circuit. I noticed that the stuff on the desk (computer, printer, TV, stereo) was still operating, so I plugged the heater in the livingroom into the surge protector on my desk. Everything was great until I needed to make my morning coffee. That breaker tripped!
    OK folks, where do you plug in your space heaters so the breakers don't trip? HELP! My survival depends on the answer.

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  • KFRimr
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    Originally posted by millerjnt View Post
    Kent,

    While your normal baseboard heater might could be used there, would it be too long for the space? Are there shorter ones? Or, does your wife insist that a heater will never take up space on the dresser?

    Terry

    Terry,

    I hadn't though about putting it on the dresser...I'll have to pass that by the wife. I know that she has no problem with hording the space on the dresser. Yes they do have a verity of sizes and lengths of Baseboard heaters. I never thought about putting it that high. because it doesn't have a fan the convection is what moves the air, so on the floor, outside wall is usually the best. But at this point second best may have to do. Thanks for the Idea.

    Kent

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  • millerjnt
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    Kent,

    I also have constant ringing in my ears. Some years ago, I went to the doctor and mentioned that so he sent me to an audiologist. According to what was tested, I've lost some hearing of the higher frequencies. Which is funny since I still hear a lot of the high frequencies that a lot of folks don't hear. Back when I was overseas in the Army, one of our maintenance men got bored one night and hooked up a signal generator to create something for testing hearing. Since all of us were into building up component stereo systems with good speakers, he wanted to find out if what we claimed to hear was actually being heard. When he tested me, he turned around immediately and said, "Let's do that again." A second test confirmed the first in that I had much better hearing than everyone else.

    As I mentioned, we have a small Lasko ceramic tower heater in the bedroom and it sits right on top of the dresser. Not having a 4th slide, we need all the floor space we can get. While your normal baseboard heater might could be used there, would it be too long for the space? Are there shorter ones? Or, does your wife insist that a heater will never take up space on the dresser?

    Terry

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  • KFRimr
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    Terry,

    You like a little ambient noise. I have ringing in my ears, so to have white noise just raises the volume of annoyance. So the quieter the better. I wish there was a way to put a baseboard heater in the bedroom. Even the oil filled radiant heater I have seen are too large for the bedroom. IDEAS?

    Kent

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